I want to learn how to make games, and I''ve heard that tertis is the best place to start, so I want to know a good place to find on for windows since I am programming for windows. I think that is what is being made in the interactive turorial in this forum, but that uses direct x, and I don''t want to do that yet. so please tell me were I can find the source to one, or a good tutorial to build one.