http://www.gamedev.net/community/forums/topic.asp?topic_id=58871 I posted a reply to a request for links on the general programming board, and I thought it might be helpful if I posted a link to it here. My post is the sixth from the top. btw, anyone know how to do breaks or new lines with the source tag? Every time I use it it puts everything on the same line... One more thing, anyone have source code for an asteroids type game in C++, preferably using Allegro? It''d be real helpful to me :D